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    1. Tamashii7 Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:09 PM

    William Wallace won! I'm not all that surprised, Wallace had the greater equipment. However, I've got to admit that Shaka Zulu's something. It was fun watching the weapons experts on Shaka's side wailing on the test dummies. This episode was educational for me, and I'm sure for others too, because I didn't even know who Shaka Zulu was until the match up.

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    2. scarekrovv Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:11 PM

    The program developed by Slitherine, sometimes seem a little bit wierd, theres not enough data to be put it in about the two warriors, There should be a plain battle field!!, I did want William Wallace to win though, but its like, they put some one who has an advantage against someone who doesnt, Like the Ninja VS Spartan, Who would do that?

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    3. THUNDERandFLASH Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:13 PM

    First time I predicted wrong but I agree with the outcome now that I think about how Wallace is a battle tank. If shaka is going to hurt him (and he would definitely hurt him, wallace would make sure he would finish him. His weapons and gear were superior and the way he fought would include getting knocked around quite a bit in exchange for some serious carnage. Shaka just did not have the tools to deliver an immediate death blow for someone as dangerous as Wallace. As great of a warrior Shaka was, Wallace is no pushover and would know how to protect his most important areas. Shaka on the other hand could only rely on speed, stabbing, and slashing. I thought it would be a much closer fight though.

    hmm... i don't really have any questions. good job. best episode yet again.

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    4. brocknrollin Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:13 PM

    Wow, fantastic episode guys! Probably the best one yet?! I knew this would be the outcome, and just had one observation that had me quite nervous at one point. In regards to the Ball and Chain, accuracy was an issue as it took three attempts to hit the target. With all due respect to Kieron (love the Aftermath!), but William Wallace would have been indescribably more accurate with the B&C than Kieron. We have to assume that since Wallace was training since he was 8, he would have been able to deliver the deathblow on the first try. I noticed the B&C only delivered one kill at the end, was this because of the accuracy? If the killing power was not determined by human error, and the true potential of the weapon, would the B&C kill count have been even higher?

    And to make this week's Aftermath the best one yet (the best show should be followed up by the best aftermath), can you PLEASE put a Zulu shield in front of a gelled Torso, and see if the Claymore can cut through the shield and the Torso?

    Great job this week guys, the whole show was stellar! Looking forward to IRA and Taliban! And here's in hope to seeing Templar Knights (different than regular knights) versus Yuan Dynasty Mongolian warriors (Kublai Kahn era).

    Hire me!

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    5. TicalionStallion Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:15 PM

    My thing on this particular episode is the fact that I don't think modern day experts and a computer program are not sufficient to properly guage to specific warriors. I like the show, don't get me wrong but, I don't know. Just ranting and raving.

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    6. Dracodraconois Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:16 PM

    I was very happy to see that William won the battle, due to my Scottish descent. But I was curious why the Wallace team chose the weapons they used for the show. I totally understand the Claymore, War Hammer, Dirk, And Targe. But why the ball and chain? It was made very clear it is not a on target weapon when it comes to distance.

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    7. 5uicideKing Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:23 PM

    I think up until this episode it was assumed each combatant was a warrior in top condition. This newest episode actually showcased real historic figures. How did the affect the way the numbers were entered into the computer (was a psychological profile added or something?) How would the results differ if the match-up was between a surrogate Scottish Highlander versus a Zulu warrior?

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    8. Knight_3670 Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:28 PM

    This is the second time i see an epesode of Deadliest Warrior and im hooked!!!! You guys bring it all, and the match ups a great!! And i knew the first time i heard about William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu that William would win hands down... Its clear that Zulu had speed, he had to be fast to eat, his weapons were made for hunting not fighting wars... Now William was a true warrior, he had all the right weapons for a war...

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    9. bruinkillaz Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:28 PM

    This show was rad for a few episodes but it's now dumb as hell. Really ? Taliban vs. The IRA ,What's next LAPD vs. Mounties.

    There are lots of warriors in the worlds history lets keep it ancient.

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    10. RprShadow Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:30 PM

    Sweet fight! I love how this fight used named warriors instead of ambiguous and random "stereotypes" of warriors, I've already read that this will be the only match of it's kind for this season, But do you suppose it's possible that we might see more of this in the next season of Deadliest warrior? (This show is far too good to not allow multiple seasons.)

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    11. jphilpott32 Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:46 PM

    I don't think that this week your going to see a lot of argument. I think it should be noted that Shaka was one heck of a warrior, but come on! No man stands a chance against the legendary Braveheart (unless, of course, they are holding a gun)! I was just curious if there's going to be more individual match ups, maybe featuring Ghangis Khan, Alexander the Great, Leonidas, Scipio Africanis, Leonidas, or even the likes of Hannibal (obviously not against S.A.), Frederick the Great, Peter the Great, etc., etc.... the list goes on and on. I was just curious if maybe some of these legends were in the Deadliest Warrior future?



    P.S. Why not put the world conquers (Alexander vs. Ghengis) on D.W., considering they both conquered their known worlds in their times.

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    12. fmd99 Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:52 PM

    I just saw the show, and liked the outcome. I just wanted to know is how much does the speed of the warrior come into play. We usually talk about the best warriors in each episode and there capabilities are probably equal, but would Wallace be able to swing that sword so fast and quick before Shaka could role out of it?



    I'm sure he was fast enough with his weapon (Wallace), because he did last long enough in his own battles.



    Also practice your throwing a little more! Just kidding that thing looks hard and it would take a lot of time to master it, and everyone still makes mistakes! But did the Shaka warrior make his throwing on his first try, or did you not show the misses he made also.



    And how deadly was the poison, could it cause Wallace or anyone to be paralyzed, yet if you miss then you are done. I guess the 1000 battles really helps into prove who really wins.

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    13. ManOWar71 Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:52 PM

    I've been hooked on this show since I watched the premier episode. I've had many problems with some of the testing and outcomes, but absolutely love seeing all the weapons in action!! I was fairly certain that Wallace would/should win this battle, but was getting anxious during the testing. I felt that most of the Zulu weapons would be negated by William's armor and that wasn't reflected in the testing. I really had a problem with the choice of the ball and chain as William's long range weapon. I also felt the ball and chain was more from the braveheart movie and not history. Either way the Scott's used bows and arrows or crossbows just like any other medieval army. That would have been a much better choice for long range weapon. That would've made it a no contest as William would've dropped Shaka many times with a bow and arrow. I was getting nervous and would've been upset if the Zulu would've won from a bunch of throwing stick kills,lol. I mean come on why wasn't the long bow or crossbow chosen as William Wallace's long range weapon. I've heard he specifically was a longbow expert and favored its use highly in battle.. Either way I enjoyed the episode and the Claymore is just nasty!!!

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    14. padenbang Posted on May 26 '09 at 11:53 PM

    Not sure what scarekrow means, if anything the ninja had the advantage in that kind of terrain. I thought tonights episode was kind of lacking. Many times I am dissapointed with the way the go about testing some weapons. They test two weapons from they same class, completley differant ways. I disagree with this entirely. They should test both opposing weapons the same exact way to get the result that makes the most sense. Like when they tested that silly piece of wood, they threw it at glass! What does that prove other then the speed the tested. Futhermore, I could have thrown that ball and chain harder and more acurate then that guy. Why didn't they talk about how smart wallace was? Brilliant tactics cant be beat. Great show otherwise. No Disrespect to the Zulu but U just got Out-classed. William Wallace would have wiped out africa if this really happened. Just playing. not sure about the terrorist thing. How do u call those warriors.

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    15. Osirak Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:01 AM

    how did william die?? not in the show but in real life?

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    16. yellowfury Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:05 AM

    clearly william wallace kicked zulus ass. but the poison in the short clip where zulu spits poison in a guy's eye he didn't seem to recover, but during the battle wallace recovered really fast so what's the deal with that and the same thing with the ninja against spartan. do you factor everything in on the computer program?

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    17. nateoak10 Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:12 AM

    To the guys at aftermath, when making the final fight do you guys not see that shaka stabbed him between the ribs? this does not reflect on the final simulation but why are alot of the fights completely unrealistic? getting stabbed there i dont care who you are your going down.this has happened in many of the shows where a death hit like when the monk cut open the maori then he just got right back up from the twin hooks, the ninjas black powder (though not a kiull shot still had no affect) the morningstar hitting the pirate in the head, and now the zulu spear. im sure most of the fans of this show would like to see fights that just made a little more sense.

    p.s. Is there going to be a second season?!

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    18. Ajax_the_Greater Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:15 AM

    I was very upset that the basis for the show's portrayal of William Wallace seemed to come from a combination of Blind Harry's poem and the film "Braveheart," based on the same poem (the director of the film even admitted that his movie was more an adaptation of the poem than historical events). Everything that the DW Wallace was portrayed with (weapons, plaid, war-paint, et cetera) was not historical in basis. This show is supposed to feature two historical warriors through history.

    So far, the experts have done a pretty good job of bringing authentic weapons and tactics to the show, but I was quite disappointed this time. There is absolutely no historical proof that Wallace used any of the mentioned weapons, other than, perhaps, a sword and shield (Wallace, a nobleman, would have had access to swords that the rest of his army would not). Claymores were used as polearms against mounted knights; even the Scots didn't use them in hand-to-hand combat (and I defy you to find me a historical source to tell me otherwise- a real historical source, not just what some stuntman tells you). Implements like the hammer and the ball-and-chain were used by the peasant members of Wallace's army, but not the elites (period historians like Fordun have mentioned how incompetent the Scotch fighting force was at the time); a knight like Wallace himself would not have used them... (cont'd)

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    19. Ajax_the_Greater Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:16 AM

    (from above)...
    It just became obvious that the source used for Wallace was not historical in nature. Wallace's motives were even hyped up. Any real British historian will tell you that Wallace was not a freedom fighter; he was selfish, just like every other leader. He, a landowner, personally benefited from a Scotland free of English rule, and he convinced farmers that they would benefit from the same (in truth, it didn't affect their lives too much; that just speaks as to how effective of a ruler he was).

    Don't get me wrong, I respect Wallace as a commander, and there's significant evidence to suggest that he was, in his own right, a capable warrior. I think that he should have won the fight anyway. However, using these "sources" to form his DW warrior profile is analogous to using "300" as a model for the Spartan, or using a "kung fu movie" for the Shaolin monk.

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    20. commonnow Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:27 AM

    MEL GIBSON FTW!

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    21. IceDragon77 Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:31 AM

    Wow, a really great episode. There is just one thing that bothers me. I really don't think this show should analyze weapons that are more meant for stunning enemies. I mean first with the Black Eggs in the Ninja vs. Spartan episode, and now the spit of poison. You guys test to see which weapons kill more. These weapons really don't fit into the show. I'm sure there could have been another weapon Shaka Zulu and the Ninja could have shown. So maybe in future episodes, could we just stick with weapons that are intended to kill, so we don't get any unfair advantages?

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    22. Osirak Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:33 AM

    when they tested the short spear. they stabbed. chain mail is ment for defending slash type attacks not stabs..

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    23. Ajax_the_Greater Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:38 AM

    I realize my points made above will go unrecognized by the crew on the Aftermath, so I will pose this question as well:

    What made this Speed-versus-Brawn match different from the others that we've seen? Apache-versus-Gladiator, Maori-versus-Shaolin, and, to an extent, Pirate-versus-knight yielded a quick-guy victory. The only exception so far has been Ninja-versus-Spartan, where the Spartan's armor was just too much (and we saw how Shaka dealt with Wallace's chain).

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    24. SuperSoldierRCP Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:45 AM

    I wanna See a US soldier VS a Chineze Soldier

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    25. MickleMac Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:53 AM

    The ball and chain looks like a primitive morningstar. I can't imagine it was ever used as a throwing weapon. Why not give Wallace a bow and arrow for his distance weapon?

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    26. saburwulf Posted on May 27 '09 at 12:57 AM

    WTF just happen, this is the most bias pack of bull I have ever seen.There is no way in hell that wallace would defeat Shaka zulu in a one on one fight. I'm really disappointed with the supposite expert,



    1. shaka was too fast for wallace and his heavy weapons

    2. we also need to take in to an account the fatigue factor, shaka is clearly in better shape

    3. shaka is winning up until the end when all of sudden he impales himself on the claymore



    WTF

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    27. Boop3000 Posted on May 27 '09 at 1:07 AM

    I am surprised to hear the Zulu shield was know to have blocked bullets, yet it couldn't defend against a sword. A little crossover to Myth Busters with the results. I think the reliance on speed is overrated as well, it's not like either warrior would be an unmoving target.

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    28. Major_Lee_Unstable Posted on May 27 '09 at 1:17 AM

    It would be nice if the weapons were tested on the same test. They don't even have a controlled test I learned that in middle school I guess they slept through that part. Use both weapons on the same defense or pig or what ever. People move when they¿re stab, they are not a wall without any pain (Height, weight then hit it). There is no proof that Wallace used the Wallace claymore it is simply its named after him. He more likely used regular clay more. Put people in armor against people in armor, fighters in armies against others in armies. Ninja vs. Apache, Gladiator vs. Spartan, and Zulu vs. Mayan, they never would meet each other but the fighting styles and body protection are similar. Seriously open a history book and study it! These guys are a joke they could not be farther from doing a scientific then some 5th grader with a computer. This show is awful, you use weapons that are totally different but most of the fighters had similar weapons but they are not compared too each other.

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    29. pono808 Posted on May 27 '09 at 1:29 AM

    i love the show but its results are complete invalid.
    http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/deadliest-warrior-combat-simulator/

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    30. Solarwind Posted on May 27 '09 at 1:33 AM

    Dig the show. I thought the long range weapon choices were a bit odd especially considering both could also be wielded as short to mid range bludgeoning tools. By what process do you determine what weapons will be used?

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    31. katanabushido Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:03 AM

    I was surprised at how ineffective the ball and chain was. At close range I thought, and correct me if I am wrong, wouldn't it make more sense to use the weapon with an overhand swing like the morning star did?

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    32. canadaloveswhiskey Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:06 AM

    What I want to know is will we be seeing more of these kind of fights? I for one would love to see a fight between Attila the Hun, and some one like Harold Hardrada.

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    33. LoupGarou216 Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:08 AM

    "Fact from Fiction" What a load of bull. I'd just like to say that by portaying William Wallace "Braveheart " style, as a hairy oatmeal savage, Deadliest Warrior has lost any historical credibility they had left (not that there was very much to begin with). William Wallace was a Scottish Knight, a lesser noble and would have been equipped almost like the Knight in Knight vs Pirate, just a century earlier in regards to weapons and armour. William Wallace was not a Highland rebel, nor were kilts or even claymores in existence in the 1200's. Portaying Wallace in this way would be the same if Shaka Zulu were in a tuxedo and bling; both are ignorant stereotypes and anachronisms. I feel sorry for the inevitable masses of U.S viewers who will only get their Scottish history from Spike TV and Mel Gibson. Congratulations for promoting ignorance.

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    34. Veth544 Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:27 AM

    awesome episode, there definitely needs to be a Roman vs Greek episode.

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    35. Vagettasan Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:30 AM

    I love the show but I would like to see more of an even playing feild here. This episode excited me in name recognition only but after the excitement wore off it was obvious who the victor would be. I personally would like to see warriors with similar equipment fight it out. Makes no sense to put warriors against each other without some level of equalizer. For example when the knight faced off against the pirate. Now although they had different weapons and gear each had an advantage over the other so it pretty much comes down to the number crunching. Also if you could have it so maybe through votes the audience could chose the fights via voting. Or even do a once a month drawing of an idea of a match sent in by a viewer.

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    36. Apache_Ninja_knight Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:40 AM

    Hello there aftermath crew.
    first off I just want to say i love your show, of course somethings i disagree with and stuff lol, but hey cant argue with science right?
    i probably have a million questions for you but i'll try and keep this short.
    um, first off, in the show it seemed as though shaka was very talented with the "double stick" things, dont see why you didnt' include that in his arsenal, i can see how it wouldn't hurt wallace on his armored parts, but if your going to put a disctration weapon in there like maybe the poison, i personally think you should have put the sticks in there ALSO or INSTEAD, with shakas speed i can see a couple hard whacks in the face from those things and too the shins could really could have givin' shaka more openings. or did you not put it in because he would have had another weapon to use over wallace? (if thats a case you should give it to him, cuz he's facings steel weapons and it might make it a bit more fair)I mostly agree with the outcome of the battle, i think wallace is just strait up a pure warrior, but i was really surprised to have seen shaka lose so many. I guess that claymore is just too deadly. thoughts?

    p.s. ZULU!!! ZULU!!! cant wait for another "specific named warrior" matchup. also are there or have you had any thought of any female warriors? that would be cool too see. you know you would like to see it too *wink*

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    37. ldkman Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:49 AM

    The Zulu experts in this episode throughout the show mention how smart and fast Shaka Zulu was. For instance after the Dirk / Targe test, the Zulu experts say "We have speed, agility, and working angles... we won't be there. A Zulu warrior doesn't turn his back." This is also clear in the end simulation that those traits in Shaka Zulu were represented. My question is why was the intelligence and speed of William Wallace not represented or mentioned at all if Shaka Zulu's traits were. As stated in Braveheart in the beginning of his training "First use how to use this (points to his head), then you'll learn to use this (points to a sword)". William Wallace was a great warrior because of his intelligence and how he used it in any battle to never be caught offguard, rather then his brute force.

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    38. Apache_Ninja_knight Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:51 AM

    its me once again, hope you wont get annoyed just really into the show is all.

    this doesn't directly apply to these two warriors ( william and shaka ) but how do you factor in "spirit" in battles? if you do at all?
    im not applying this question directly for this battle because both wallace and shaka were both very spirited.

    p.s. just a suggestion, i see you heading in the direction of the taliban and stuff like that, and although they are deadly i think i can speak on behalf of many people that watch this show that they should not be concidered warriors. At least not as much as other historical or "ancient" warriors thats at your disposal. my guess is that majority of people watching the show are a little more on the "historical / fantasy / "sword and shield" type warriors and battles. just saying maybe to keep some fans, or get more viewers, keeping it in that direction would be be a better choice? (please dont feel like im judging you, or am trying to sound smarter) "thoughts"?

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    39. Claymore_to_your_head Posted on May 27 '09 at 2:59 AM

    It seems that brute force almost always falls short of speed and good tactics (Apache vs Gladiator, Monk vs Maori, Knight vs Pirate, Samurai vs Viking) unless the speed user is so outclassed that their weapons simply can't do enough damage to defeat their opponent (as with this episode and Ninja vs Spartan). This makes perfect sense, but I feel this point is beginning to get repetitive, what I'd really like to see is some more equal pairings. A little less David and Goliath and a little more Goliath vs Goliath.

    Also this episode you state that this is not deadliest distraction, its deadliest warrior, so why bother with the poison? I agree it should be factored in, but more as a fighting style, not a killing too,l because it isn't one.

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    40. 3badstitches Posted on May 27 '09 at 3:07 AM

    I was pleased with the final outcome of this match-up. Regarding the ball-and-chain; with no disrespect to the experts involved, how likely is it that Wallace (or another Scot of the period) was better with the ball-and-chain than the program led us to believe? All weapons of the day were battle-tested by default, and a cumbersome low-percentage implement would be discarded at some point. Surely the ball-and chain did more than slow the mighty Scot down.

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    41. Pacman510 Posted on May 27 '09 at 3:09 AM

    What I don't get is how Shaka Zulu's agility didn't play out like the Apache warrior. The Apache got under the gladiator's sheild and was able to cut the legs then the stomach. why couldn't Shaka Zulu do that to William Wallace. In my opinion Shacka zulu would have been able to get under the claymor and go for the kill.

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    42. Milkwad19061 Posted on May 27 '09 at 3:41 AM

    I hope the system includes about the peoples agility and hand to hand combat level. About the poison spit and maybe the black egg. If you distract your opponent and he or she can't fight and other warrior takes those moments to kill the distracted warrior then the distraction can be sort of deadly if you can capitalize on the opponent.

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    43. ecupaulac Posted on May 27 '09 at 3:47 AM

    i am very disappointed with the result of this episode, like saburwulf said it was very biased including the part where he runs onto the claymore, are you kidding me? I'm sure he wasn't that dumb, besides the test are ridiculous the show is called deadliest warrior not deadliest weapon. For a deadliest warrior there are many things to take under consideration not just the weapons,though they are most important but a few other things come into play like speed, agility and strategy. am i wrong?

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    44. bandit86 Posted on May 27 '09 at 3:48 AM

    How did you program the fighting style Of Wallace vs. Shaka into the computer program and what parameters were used for that?

    Also do you take the environments in consideration ever? Like with the Apache and Gladiator if the Apache was in the arena he would have been toast. Thanks for the show I know it's just for fun, bloody good fun (but I don¿t like the idea of terrorist or mafia I don¿t consider them Warrior they are just Thugs and Murderers) There should be lots of true warriors that you could chose from and not crap like that.

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    45. RbMasterR Posted on May 27 '09 at 3:57 AM

    i'm sorry, but this was the biggest dissapointment yet on Deadliest warrior. i love this show and all, but when i heard you guys were pinning 2 legends against each other, that, i couldnt wait for. what i saw in the episode though, was nothing more than one of zulu's SOLDIERS vs once of william's REBELS. i'm fine iwth the results of wallace beating zulu, even though i was rooting for zulu, but really, did you guys do anything to separate the data you used with what would be for one of these men's soldiers? i thought that in this episode you guys would have done background research and add or subtract numbers for advantages and weaknesses

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    46. bandit86 Posted on May 27 '09 at 4:07 AM

    How about a show for the losers Gladiator VS Morai Knight VS Ninja Yakuza VS Special forces and then the winners against each other

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    47. Jake_Speed_Kills27 Posted on May 27 '09 at 4:07 AM

    Though I love, "the deadliest warrior" as a concept for a show I wonder if the title of the show is a bit of a misnomer. Perhaps it should be called, "the deadliest armed warrior". After all anyone who has been in a real life or death struggle or even a full contact fight knows that the victor is determined more by intangible factors than by the weapon you carry. It is undeniable that speed kills, and the winner is determined not by seconds but by tenths and hundreds of a second. Vison is also a key factor. It seemed that both the black egg of the ninja and spit poison of shaka zulu were written off when in reality these are very effective weapons. The reality is that there are many substances that do not have to enter directly into the eye to blind or momentarily incapacitate an opponent and a true warrior needs less than a second to stike a killing blow. Also when you consider that most battles are not determined by one blow. How can you say a clymore is an effective weapon against a significantly faster opponent.. A weapon of this size is not well balanced and while the first strike is powerful the moment and lack of balance of the weapon would leave you vulnarable. This is not a precision weapon. And though it is mentioned in the show that the simulation attempts to create and environment that does not benefit either opponent it seems that the consistent comparisons between armored combantants and speedy/stealthy combatants always seems to factor out into the armor being an advantage. Does the simulation take into the account the defference in speed, visual accuity, and reaction time transitioning from offensive to defensive posture in a fight. These are all factors that weigh heavier on determining the outcome of a battle.Can you truly say a warrior is better without considering these factors.

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    48. YellowFlash Posted on May 27 '09 at 4:08 AM

    Kind of dissapionted. I mean the episode was great but the ending fight scence was around 45 seconds shorter then all the other fights

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    49. Jake_Speed_Kills27 Posted on May 27 '09 at 4:20 AM

    This episode was as disappointing as the ninja vs. spartan episode. It seemed that tatices were not factored in and it became more of a matter of popularity and armor. Perhaps the best comparison this season was the shaolin monk vs. maori warrior and even then it was implied that the monk would win due to the steel weapons he carried and rather than his training and temperment. Training and technique are too big a factor to be ignored. I wonder if the sumulations examine the fighting styles as well as th weapons. Just like in boxing styles make fights. A great fighter can lose to a less than average fighter that exploits their one flaw.

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    50. Demosthenes101 Posted on May 27 '09 at 4:23 AM

    I expected Wallace to win but not by as much as he did. The numbers from this battle are interesting because the Claymore was almost equaled by the IkIwa with only a 12 kill difference between the two. When compared the the Dirk and Targe, the Iklwa had more kills, and may have better served the Zulu as their specialty weapon rather than their mid range. Zulu Assegai (javelins) may have served better as a mid range weapon. Had the Iklwa and Ishlangu been pitted against the Dirk and Targe and the Zulu Assegai been pitted against the Claymore I think the numbers would have been a lot closer.

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