The Ultimate Fighter: The Aftermath - Size Does Matter

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  1. UFCchickie Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 11:23 AM

  This comment might be a little late for the first show, but I really feel like it was irresponsible of the doctors and referee and Dana White to not stop the fight considering how much blood there was in the first fight. I am just a little disappointed because of how MMA is worked up to be safer than boxing, etc. This was not a good display of a well monitored fight at all. What did Dana White have to say about this and what he has said in the past about MMA being so safe and well monitored? If the fight was fought again and played out the same way, would someone have stopped it sooner?

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  2. D.STONEKING Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 1:14 PM

  I think that the Referee and other officials made the Right Call on not stopping the Fight yeah there was Blood put it wasn't a deadly amount and the Abe was still defending himself intelligently as well Abe wasn't even bothered by the loss of blood.

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  3. tanksutton Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 4:32 PM

  I hate when wrestlers come in and lay on dudes...If you cant finish on ground dont take it there.......

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  4. moddman3 Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 6:20 PM

  I originally didn't like Kimbo at all. But I feel sad for him now because its obvious he is trying hard

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  5. cobra78 Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 8:26 PM

  i love what the ufc and dana white have done with this season.. dana is bring this sport to the top fast.... great work ufc and dana this after math is a great idea also.. any free tickets to a ufc send them this way

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  6. Jesseoh525 Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 10:28 PM

  Listen.. Plain and simply Dana White or whoever is in charge of the changes they made this season is a Genius. When I heard the news about what this season was going to be about I immediately went out and bought cable. You can onyly watch a show like this so many times at your buddies house before you got to have it for your self. KimBO SLiCE!!! It just doesn't get better than that. But lets be honest and drop the whole ex-con just trying to go straight for my kids bit. Kimbo has been involved in the Pornagraphy biz for some time now. At least he was some type of goon for these guys.. I should know.. I saw the porn where he was standing around in the back ground! EIther way this season is the shite! Im glad they didn't stop that fight. I think the gauntlet has been thrown down at this point. To quote the movie "Snatch" "This is not a tickling competition Tommy, these guys are out to hurt each other!" Bring it on Spike! And much respect to Dana White for having the vision to put this thing together.. I can honestly say THIS is what the fans want to see.. I should know.. I'm a fan!

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  7. SpLaTz Posted on Sep 22 '09 at 10:34 PM

  This is just a general comment. I was just wondering why spikeTV doesnt put up full epsidoes online 24hrs after the frist showing like just about all other channels do. I would be nice. I miss a lot of this shows because I work a screwed up schedule.

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  8. broooks Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:41 AM

  i dont agree with the way they run this show, they should train all the fighters for a month and then run all the prelims in one day, the guys
  
  that fight in the last prelims have been professionally trained whereas the first few guys that fight are fresh, maybe if they had the same amount of training time as the rest of the guys they might have done better

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  9. Lloydninho Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 9:27 AM

  I've been watching since season one, and what i want to talk about is all the guy's that give there time up for these fighter's. It''s a big commitment and sacrifice from the trainer's, coaches, and Dana White. I would like to give a big pat on the back to all of you people who make it possible to come in and fight for a contract, and train with some of the best guys out there.

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  10. CDN-SasquatchKillah Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 3:41 PM

  I understand Kimbo's alleged falling out with Bas Rutten and I was since Kimbo's flaws in his game as we all know by now. I was wondering why he hasn't gotten in touch with his Cousin Rhadi Ferguson From what I've read he was a 2 time olympian and 4 time judoka champion and BJJ Black belt. I noticed from his videos he has a very aggresive style like kimbo so why dont they get in touch and train with him

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  11. topazskillmauler Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 5:41 PM

  hellz yea

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  12. ChiefOfStaph Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 6:28 PM

  Where are we supposed to leave our comments on the show that get shown in the Aftermath? Dana white talks about the "spike.com message boards", but I can't find that anywhere. Does he just mean these comments attached to a post?

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  13. www.CAGESAGE.com Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 6:32 PM

  WIN TEAM RAMPAGE OR TEAM RASHAD SHIRT & SHORTS
  
  All you have to do is play the weekly TUF game on wwwCAGESAGEcom. The season winner will get his/her choice of a Team Rampage or Team Rashad T-Shirt and Board Shorts from TapOut.
  
  Only the top half of your scores are used for the season leaderboard so anyone can still win!!!

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  14. mrsteezy Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 7:55 PM

  I love this crap...KIMBO!!!! What the hell is up with these big guys gassing in the first round... The coaches need to push some serious cardio training.. They are about to quit the fight because they cant breath big bodies need big lungs to work at an entertaining speed

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  15. Venal Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:04 PM

  How can you give the fight to James when Wes clearly had 2 submission attempts and multiple take downs?

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  16. MMA_268 Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:06 PM

  OMG that fight was stolen from Wes WTF. What fight were those judges watching. James Mcsweeny did barely anything in that fight. The only shots that he landed that were effective was the leg kicks, and even those didnt really do anything. Cmon stolen victory James you suck I hope u lose.

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  17. don313 Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:18 PM

  kimbo goin work dat boy out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  18. WarriorOfGod7 Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:23 PM

  What I want to know is where do they get these heavyweights from... It seems like most of them have no cardio at all which begs the question; if they do have backrounds in wrestling, bjj, boxing... How can they have such poor cardio. Do any of them have prior training before getting on the show? Do they just get so worn out during the training that they go into their fights pretty much guaranteed to get gassed in the first round?

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  19. scarletfire Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:24 PM

  That fight between Wes and McSweedey was atrocious. I've never seen professional fighters standing around with their hand on their hips mid fight like that. They both should be ashamed. But i agree with MMA_268. That fight was stolen from Wes. He clearly dominated IMO. Now i cant wait to see Kimbo blow up Big Country's face. Kimbo is learning these ground attacks quickly. like SCARY quickly. Big country should be very afraid. I can't wait till next week.

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  20. scarletfire Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:34 PM

  To get around to my question, WHAT THE HELL are these guys doing for cardio. These first two matches have been pretty week. Both fighters are winded after the first match. Are the coaches going to do anything to try to prevent this. Maybe some more cardio?!

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  21. mikeyboy55 Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:44 PM

  Rashad is the better coach!

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  22. Heyrow Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 8:45 PM

  Okay the Wes vs. James fight was one of the worst fights that I've ever seen on the show. Both of the fighters showed no heart at all. And another thing did they both have less then zero cardio or what? I just think that they both have a lot of potential and they just didn't put on a good show at all. It seems that the guy with the best ground game will win this show. There's my two cents.

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  23. Dynasty666 Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 9:04 PM

  Wes vs. James was not a very good fight. I think there should have been a 3rd round to decide the winner. James had his leg kicks dominating for him and his one punch that almost layed Wes down. However, Wes did get his take downs and managed to get into full mount, but his stand up lacked. So far no one appears to have very good cardio or heart. They are only doing two 5 minute rounds. They should be ready for three AT LEAST. It almost seems like all they need to do to win THIS Ultimate Fighter is to have great cardio. CAN'T WAIT till fight next week. I am not a Kimbo fan but it looks like he may actually have a chance now that he is learning a little bit how to fight.

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  24. morbidvission Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 9:05 PM

  I wanna talk about the 2 fight, on wedn sept 24. MMMMM i think the big guy won, and for sure he can be good if he has enough stamina. None of them would ve survived a third round. Team Rashad had more rest, looked more as a fighter.....a lil more, cuz he wsnt good either. He back up not even looking the attack. Thats a lil street fight, and not pro. The other guy had heavy hands. But couldnt connect nothing cuz i guess after 1 min he was feeling already tired. If you are tired u can focus, and u dont have strengh to finish a fight. I think rampage team has more potential with his upcoming fighters. And dont under estimate kimbo. He has power. And dont forget kimbo is in the ultimate fighter now. Thats makes him step up in his career. The rest have experience but not good enough to go pro. Thats a step down. And they are all in the ultimate fighter which puts them all in a same level. So that will influence for sure. Big country will get knocked out in the first round. Call me next wednesday when that happens. 646 247 4313 MORBID VISSION

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  25. Mrmcmachoman Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 9:21 PM

  what message board is Dana talking about?

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  26. Mrmcmachoman Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 9:42 PM

  this website is screwy, posting doesnt work too well. : (

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  27. WDC Posted on Sep 23 '09 at 11:14 PM

  Great show! Amir is fantastic of course. Even though he says his name too quickly. Anyway, I think he had good questions and got good answers which made it interesting. It was nice to see that Abe's head wound healed up perfectly, and the two were respectful and honest in talking about their fight. TUF continues to do a good job with storyline and editing and especially keeping the FIGHTS as it's top priority.

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  28. TheWetWizard Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 12:16 AM

  Why is everyone getting so winded so early into the fights? I hope all the fights that happen this season aren't as slow as the first two have been.

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  29. maxonehiphop Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 12:42 AM

  why have Kimbo and Roy fight so early in the show? have them both fight a week fight keeping them around longer. It's a show. Keep the fighters that draw the most viewers, right?

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  30. thahellmouth Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 4:34 AM

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  31. WillTheGreatWhite Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 11:22 AM

  Let me start off by saying that I think both Rampage and Rashad are great coaches and I cant wait to the them fight. Now with that said here is my question. Do you think Rampage let the bad blood affect his decision making on these first match ups? Cause bigger is not always better. Even though these four fighters were very winded, I think the experience level of John and James help them prevail. Go Team Rashad!!!

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  32. mike74ny Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 11:40 AM

  (I can't find Episod 2 Aftermath so Ill just throw this down on here)
  
  What E'ffing fight was the judges watching on EPISODE 2?? Big man Wes definitely won that fight against Mcsweeney! It wasn't the greatest fight, but he definitely won the first round and the second round could of went either way.
  
  Wes Shivers could be a very dangerous man, but his cardio is whacked. If thats the only thing that separates him to become a top fighter, then he needs to be looked at and given another chance, so if someone is injured or pusses out (Heyl Junie Browning), then they just gotta get Wes in there-IF, IF he gets his cardio together...

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  33. ivans85z Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 4:08 PM

  this was the worst fight and judging ive ever seen there is no way james won both rounds definately needed a 3rd dana get some people on the show that can do something if they win so far doesnt look like anyone could compete in heavyweight division in ufc

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  34. MovesMagee Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 5:28 PM

  Not sure what was going through the heads of the judges last night but i watched the fight 2 more times and couldn't figure out how James beat Wes and for sure not in two rounds. Wes never turned and ran from James. The only thing that I thought James did well at was his kicks but even then Wes took him down to counter it. I think it was 4 times that Wes took James down and countless times he smoked him in the head with those big mitts, putting him in full speed run backwards. Wes never turned and ran from James even though he was gassed. If the fight was based on who was gassed most I still think they should have went to a third round. Call me crazy but I think that if James wants to continue to win at all on "HIS SHOW" ......lol......... then he better step up a big deal or he will be made short work of when he meats someone who can last more then two rounds.

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  35. bulldog91 Posted on Sep 24 '09 at 8:09 PM

  Okay, well that last fight between Shivers and Mcsweeney was a tough fight. Both guys fought hard but had poor cardio. To get to the point, I dont really understand the decision of that fight...i mean come on Mcsweeney won, really? No disrespect but Mcsweeney lost that fight. Wes Shivers went out there and controlled that fight. Mcsweeney has leg kicks...thats really it. Wes Shivers had some strikes, takedowns, and submission attempts. I wanna know if Mcsweeney really beleives that he won that fight and why.

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  36. realswift Posted on Sep 25 '09 at 1:54 AM

  all u guys talkin shit bout kimbo is dumb cuz at least he tryn i bet not all of u dose mma if u do den u no dat dis ting is bout respect so if u can not respect fighters den u r not n mma fighter das a real mma fighter well its like saying jus cuz he can stand up he not one mma fighter n da guys dat only get wrestling or jiu jitsu or karate or muay tai n kickboxing or judo or any other types of new techniques r mma fighters den u dont even no wat mma is cuz fo me ive learn dat u dont have to be somebody dat trains in a good camp or trains at all jus to be a mma fighter if u got da heart n watever skill u bringing to da table das all u need cuz once kimbo gets good hes goin to dominate i bet he has one of da best boxing in mma now an he has one of da strongest punches so if he connects i hope got a hard chin or a big heart to take it cuz if not den he goin make u eat your words real fast

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  37. joshuabrunner0075 Posted on Sep 25 '09 at 10:26 AM

  where in the hell is aftermath for the second episode?
  
  
  
  for christs sake, I navigate every other site just fine. This one is like draging your face on red hot glass.

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  38. dana4257 Posted on Sep 25 '09 at 10:26 PM

  Wes Shivers can not keep his mouth shut! He is now saying that Kimbo Slice gets beat in his next fight and He returns back to fighting due to injury to another guy and that he wis his next fight. How much truth due this have to it?

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  39. dana4257 Posted on Sep 25 '09 at 10:43 PM

  If this is the truth to went on Wes Shivers talking about what went on after the show , he should be terminated!

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  40. Criblo Posted on Sep 28 '09 at 1:38 PM

  Jon said that Kimbo came to him to train his ground game. This suggests that Kimbo loses against Nelson. Why would Kimbo win, then ask a potential opponent to train him?

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  41. churchofdan Posted on Sep 30 '09 at 11:23 AM

  I think they should stop asking these guys what they think of the upcoming fight. They already saw it and aren't the greatest actors and right now I'm pretty sure they gave away what's going to happen in the fight tonight.

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  42. tigersign Posted on Sep 30 '09 at 11:51 AM

  There have been so many rumours on who wins the fight, not long now and we will all know for sure. I agree that the shivers vs mcsweeney fight was very poor, ive seen mcsweeny fight before and he looked worn out, im guessing the training they done before the show to get on the show and the training during the show is taking its toll of the big guys, only the fitest will survive...... cant wait to see next episode.

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  43. yelhtaek Posted on Sep 30 '09 at 8:22 PM

  roys fat ass just layed on kimbo....what a bitch!! Dam thats bullshit!!

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  44. coolqban28 Posted on Sep 30 '09 at 8:45 PM

  Dana White 15 min it's not enogth more !!please more !!!!!

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  45. Amore1 Posted on Sep 30 '09 at 9:25 PM

  it was like wathcing a 500 pound women fight. ide be compleatly ashamed of my self after that roy neads to be tought some humility and dignity atleast kimbo tride to noke his bloke of wile he could breath.

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  46. cjripper Posted on Oct 1 '09 at 12:16 AM

  it is what it is. Kimbo is a good human being, but he needs to learn ground fighting. that killed him. his takedown defense is terrible and he had a few chances to sweep and reverse that fat ass. I think that kimbo has a future in the sport, but he needs time to develope. keep watching and im sure that he will start to prove his self.

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  47. sandhands Posted on Oct 1 '09 at 11:42 AM

  the roy kimbo fight wasnt the most exciting but roy stuck to his game and dominated. cant take anything away from big nelson. ive only had 4 fights but i could knock any of you out. whenever you think your ready give me your best shot.

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  48. PICO86 Posted on Oct 3 '09 at 6:53 AM

  I would just like to remind the fans that this message board is our opportunity to let these guys know what we want from them, sure it is fun to comment on the fights but remember the customer is allways right. This aint no focus group we are real people with a direct line to the ufc and spike so Lets use our power to demand what we would like to see and what we will not spend our hard earned money on. FIGHT THE POWER VIVA REVOLUTION!!!!

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  49. JAKEKILLEY Posted on Oct 8 '09 at 1:02 AM

  YO SO DO YOU THINK KIMBO WIN'S THE SHOW AND WHY DO THEY TALK SO MUCH SHIT JUST FIGHT FOR YOUR $1.000.000.000

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  50. IrishBoogy Posted on Nov 6 '09 at 5:58 AM

  I am confused. maybe this is a dumbe question but they announced the brackets for the quaterfinals last night. Does this mean that the others guys like kimbo are done and are not going to fight anymore?

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